Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/19/2017 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:42 AM Start
09:02:44 AM Presentation: State of Alaska Deferred Maintenance Overview
10:16:52 AM Adjourn
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Maintenance Overview
Adam Bryan, Capital Budget Coordinator, Office
of Management and Budget
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 19, 2017                                                                                            
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  called  the  Senate  Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Vice-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Adam   Bryan,   Capital   Budget  Coordinator,   Office   of                                                                    
Management and Budget.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mark Davis Director,  Facilities Shared Services, Department                                                                    
of Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:   STATE   OF  ALASKA   DEFERRED   MAINTENANCE                                                                  
OVERVIEW                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADAM   BRYAN,   CAPITAL   BUDGET  COORDINATOR,   OFFICE   OF                                                                    
MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET,  discussed the  presentation, "State                                                                    
of  Alaska  Deferred  Maintenance Overview;  Senate  Finance                                                                    
Committee; April  19, 2017 Office of  Management and Budget"                                                                    
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon announced the individuals who were                                                                           
available for questions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan highlighted slide 2, "What is Deferred                                                                                
Maintenance?"                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Maintenance that is postponed due to lack of resources                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Replacement of building components as they reach                                                                      
          end of useful life such as roofs or HVAC systems                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Deferred maintenance projects are mostly items that                                                                        
     entities    cannot    address   through    preventative                                                                    
     maintenance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Preventative maintenance is important to managing                                                                     
          growth   and    severity   of    future   deferred                                                                    
          maintenance                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Each entity manages maintenance independently                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Legislature appropriates funding for preventative                                                                     
          maintenance annually - facilities management                                                                          
          allocations; Public Building Fund                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Maintenance decisions must consider changing                                                                          
          business needs                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan addressed slide 3, "How many Facilities does the                                                                      
State Maintain?"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Over 2,200 facilities                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     14 entities including University of Alaska and Courts                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     19 million square feet of space                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Combined replacement value of $8.6B                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan discussed slide 4, "What do our Facilities Look                                                                       
Like?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Types of facilities vary by entity                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          DOA manages general office space                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          DOC and DHSS both manage 24 hour facilities                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          DMVA manages base facilities and statewide                                                                            
          armories                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          DNR oversees park service cabins, shelters, fire                                                                      
          suppression and preparedness shops                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Bryan  highlighted   slide   5,  "Statewide   Deferred                                                                    
Maintenance Totals":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Total of $1.84 billion, including                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Executive agencies and Courts $1.6 billion                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          School District Major Maintenance $240 million;                                                                       
          $165 million as the State share                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Total peaked at $2.3 billion in FY2012                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Reduced significantly through a five-year funding                                                                     
          plan                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Expect to trend up without consistent funding                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop  wondered whether  the 5-year plan  on the                                                                    
$100  million per  year  spending  for deferred  maintenance                                                                    
that was  enacted by Governor  Parnell was still  in effect.                                                                    
Mr. Bryan replied that the plan expired.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  noted that  slide 3  showed 16  facilities in                                                                    
the Department  of Education  and Early  Development (DEED),                                                                    
and  wondered  where  the schools  were  listed.  Mr.  Bryan                                                                    
replied  that  it  did  not   include  the  school  district                                                                    
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  surmised  that  all  the  schools  were  not                                                                    
included in the graph. Mr. Bryan agreed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  looked at slide  5, and wondered  if the                                                                    
$165 million  was the debt  service. Mr. Bryan  replied that                                                                    
school districts sent an application  to DEED for a deferred                                                                    
maintenance  item through  the  school district  maintenance                                                                    
grant program. He stated that,  depending on the size of the                                                                    
school  district, it  would put  money toward  that project.                                                                    
Therefore,   the  number   was  the   total  based   on  the                                                                    
calculation provided  by DEED  of the  local to  state match                                                                    
through that program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon surmised that  the state was obligated to                                                                    
match the grant funding. Mr. Bryan agreed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  for  information  about the  debt                                                                    
service in  major maintenance. Mr.  Bryan agreed  to provide                                                                    
that information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche queried  the processes  that continued  to                                                                    
reduce  major   maintenance.  Mr.  Bryan  stated   that  the                                                                    
deferred maintenance projects lasted  more than one year, so                                                                    
money was carried forward annually.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:12:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan  displayed slide  6, "FY2017  Deferred Maintenance                                                                    
Backlog by Entity":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The majority of deferred maintenance backlog is within                                                                     
     the University of Alaska ($1B) and the Department of                                                                       
     Transportation and Public Facilities ($347M)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof requested the  difference between the main                                                                    
campuses and  the rural  hubs. Mr.  Bryan agreed  to provide                                                                    
that information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  queried  other ways,  besides  repairs,                                                                    
that  removed items  from the  major  maintenance list.  Mr.                                                                    
Bryan replied  that replacement and closure  might remove an                                                                    
item from the list. He agreed to provide specific examples.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon remarked  that a  meat packing  building                                                                    
was sold  into the private  sector, and remarked  that there                                                                    
could be bridges that might be removed from the list.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan continued to discuss slide 6:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     School District Major Maintenance requests total $240M                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     All other entities total $252M                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan highlighted slide  7, "FY2017 Deferred Maintenance                                                                    
Backlog by  Entity." He stated  that it  was a graph  of the                                                                    
backlog  by  entity,  and  noted  that  the  University  was                                                                    
approximately  three times  as  large  as transportation  at                                                                    
$346 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon   wondered  whether   the   engineering                                                                    
building  was  included.  Mr. Bryan  did  not  believe  that                                                                    
building  would  be  considered  deferred  maintenance,  and                                                                    
agreed to examine the power plant.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop   wondered  whether  there  would   be  a                                                                    
liability removed  upon completion  of the power  plant. Mr.                                                                    
Bryan agreed to provide that information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:18:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan  addressed slide 8, "Deferred  Maintenance Funding                                                                    
History; Statewide  DM and School District."  He stated that                                                                    
the  slide may  help to  see  the progress  in spending  the                                                                    
appropriations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  remarked that the maintenance  program had                                                                    
drastically increased over time. He  felt that there was not                                                                    
enough information to address the real cause of the issue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan  looked at slide 9,  "Deferred Maintenance Funding                                                                    
History":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     From FY1998 to FY2010, DM funding was sporadic and                                                                         
     inconsistent                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          Spikes in 1999 ($53M), 2006 & 2007 ($33M), 2009                                                                       
          ($127M)                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          Low years 2000-2005 averaged $6.5M                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FY2011 began a five-year initiative to address DM                                                                          
     backlog                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Gov initiative of $100M annually for five years                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Actual average funding of $123M for DM; $18.6M                                                                        
          for School Districts                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Bryan  addressed   slide  10,   "Deferred  Maintenance                                                                    
Backlog."  He stated  that the  impact of  the funding  from                                                                    
2011 reduced the backlog of major maintenance.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan looked at slide 11, "Example of DHSS Deferred                                                                         
Maintenance Management":                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Annual facility condition audit                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Projects are logged on an ongoing basis in a Capital                                                                       
     Asset Management system                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          4 project categories                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
               Fire and Life Safety                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
               Security                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
               Building Integrity                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
               Code Requirements and Mission Efficiency                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Priority weight applied (high, medium, low)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Facility Condition Index factor                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          24 hour facility factor                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:25:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan addressed slide 12, "Example of School District                                                                       
Major Maintenance Management":                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Eligibility   Requirements:  six-year   district  plan,                                                                    
     fixed asset inventory  system, property loss insurance,                                                                    
     preventative   maintenance   and  facility   management                                                                    
     program certified by DEED                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Applications evaluated on several factors resulting in                                                                     
     an overall total points rating                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          Condition survey                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          District rating                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Weighted average age of facility                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Previous funding through grant program                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Complete planning and design                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Effectiveness of preventative maintenance program                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Emergency    conditions    and   seriousness    of                                                                    
          life/safety and code conditions                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan looked at slide 13, "What We've Learned":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Pattern of funding DM backlog coincides with years of                                                                      
     high revenues                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The SLA 2010-2014 initiative reversed the trend of                                                                         
     growing DM backlog                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Gave entities predictability and confidence                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Without a consistent level of funding, entities cannot                                                                     
     effectively execute planned renewal                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Funding uncertainty leads to emergency only                                                                           
          spending                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In a constrained fiscal environment a statewide                                                                            
     approach provides DM attention to highest priority                                                                         
     needs across multiple agencies                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Bishop    remarked   that    combined   factors                                                                    
contributed to  the problem, and  hoped to be  consistent in                                                                    
reducing major maintenance.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:30:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof hoped to see  a reflection of the price of                                                                    
oil  contributing  to  the cost  of  the  major  maintenance                                                                    
backlog.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  queried the space  consolidation effort.                                                                    
Mr.  Bryan stated  that the  following slides  would address                                                                    
that issue. He stated  that the Department of Administration                                                                    
(DOA) had a leasing component,  which had been reduced by $2                                                                    
million in FY 18.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  felt that the  state was "over  built." He                                                                    
remarked that a large  deferred maintenance list resulted in                                                                    
new  buildings, but  could not  determine affordability.  He                                                                    
queried  a  plan to  address  that  affordability and  state                                                                    
ownership  of building.  Mr. Bryan  agreed  to provide  that                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:36:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof requested an asset sale schedule.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche furthered  that  he would  like  to see  a                                                                    
comprehensive plan.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop  requested a  total amount of  lease space                                                                    
reduction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  stressed  that  there needed  to  be  a                                                                    
geographical  analysis   of  a  project  or   building.  She                                                                    
wondered who would address  the Department of Transportation                                                                    
and Public Facilities (DOT/PF)  portion of the presentation.                                                                    
Mr. Bryan  replied that Mr.  Davis would present  the DOT/PF                                                                    
slides.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:39:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK DAVIS DIRECTOR,  FACILITIES SHARED SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF    TRANSPORTATION    AND     PUBLIC    FACILITIES    (via                                                                    
teleconference), introduced himself.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Davis  discussed   slide  14,   "Statewide  Facilities                                                                    
Maintenance":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Timeline:                                                                                                                  
     2015 - EFMAC Creation and Recommendations                                                                                  
     2016 - State Facilities Council Formed, Centralization                                                                     
     Analysis Recommendation & Approval                                                                                         
     2017 - Determination of lead agency for Centralized                                                                        
     Facilities Services                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Advantages to centralized operations and maintenance                                                                       
     of state facilities                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Enterprise approach                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          One lead agency (DOT&PF)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Economies of scale                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Commonality of processes, procedures                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Consolidate contracts                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Juneau    Pilot   -    four   waves    thru   2017                                                                    
          (approximately    20   buildings)    followed   by                                                                    
          expansion statewide                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:42:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon queried the  number of buildings in phase                                                                    
1.  Mr.  Davis   stated  that  the  first   phase  was  nine                                                                    
buildings, and the entire Juneau pilot was 20 buildings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  queried the  reason for the  pilot being                                                                    
in Juneau.  Mr. Davis  replied that  much of  the leadership                                                                    
was located in Juneau.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop requested a list  of the nine buildings in                                                                    
the  pilot  project.  Mr.  Davis   agreed  to  provide  that                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche wondered  whether the  state would  retain                                                                    
ownership  of  the buildings.  Mr.  Davis  replied that  the                                                                    
facilities council  conducted a comprehensive review  of all                                                                    
state  buildings.  He stressed  that  the  inclusion of  the                                                                    
buildings was a result of extensive analysis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  requested a  proportion of  buildings that                                                                    
may  have been  marked  for disposition.  Mr. Davis  replied                                                                    
that  he could  share  the  plan, but  could  not share  the                                                                    
proportion of buildings.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  queried  the  goal of  the  pilot.  She                                                                    
wondered  whether  the   goal  was  consolidation,  building                                                                    
surplus, or  preserving current building. She  stressed that                                                                    
there  was a  hope  to  reduce the  footprint  of the  owned                                                                    
building. She announced that the  state could not retain the                                                                    
number of  owned buildings. She  wondered whether  there was                                                                    
an unknown issue within the  program. Mr. Davis replied that                                                                    
the goal of  the program was to  consolidate the facilities,                                                                    
maintenance, and operation of  the buildings. She understood                                                                    
that  there  was  an  issue  about  whether  the  state  was                                                                    
"overbuilt."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:47:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon noted  that the  presentation was  about                                                                    
building  maintenance,   rather  than  the  cost.   She  was                                                                    
disappointed in that approach.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Micciche  agreed   with  Co-Chair   MacKinnon.  He                                                                    
remarked  that  many buildings  were  approved  in times  of                                                                    
surplus state revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  queried the percentage of  federal money that                                                                    
initially  built  the  airport maintenance  facilities.  Mr.                                                                    
Bryan agreed to provide that information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop shared  that a  building in  his district                                                                    
was recently replaced.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  understood  that  there  were  a  large                                                                    
number  of transportation  buildings, and  felt that  it was                                                                    
important to evaluate the importance of every building.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Davis   looked  at   slide  15,   "Opportunities  Going                                                                    
Forward":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Opportunity to comprehensively plan recapitalization                                                                       
     of State buildings                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Starts with inspections to develop a Facilities                                                                            
     Condition Index (FCI)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Provide holistic view of all state building                                                                           
          assets                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Baseline health of our assets; prioritize                                                                             
          deferred maintenance needs                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Analyze backlog of existing deferred maintenance                                                                      
          items in relation to actual needs                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Develop a framework built on best practices:                                                                               
     processes, procedures; provide data/metrics to measure                                                                     
     progress                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Implement a common Computerized Maintenance Management                                                                     
     System                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Assess risk and prioritize work                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Strive for a systematic funding program for major                                                                          
     maintenance and system life cycle replacement-ensure                                                                       
     consistency, predictability                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Davis addressed slide 16, "Best in Class State                                                                              
Examples":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Utah - Division of Facilities Construction and                                                                             
     Management                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Provides  centralized facilities  related services                                                                    
          -    maintenance,     operations,    design    and                                                                    
          construction to 200 plus buildings.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          Facilities   Conditions  Indices   (FCIs)  renewed                                                                    
          every 5 years per facility.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          A computerized maintenance  management system used                                                                    
          to   manage   their    portfolio,   reactive   and                                                                    
          preventative    maintenance   and    real   estate                                                                    
          management.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Deferred  maintenance  funding  appropriated  into                                                                    
          the annual  budget as percentage  of the  value of                                                                    
          all state facilities                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Key  Performance Indicators  are measured  - FCIs,                                                                    
          maintenance costs per sq. ft.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Texas has benchmarked success as well                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Davis discussed slide 17, "The Long View":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Build on Successes of Juneau Pilot                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Advance in waves to bring in all state facilities                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Results-based reporting to investors, stakeholders,                                                                        
     public                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Continuous improvement culture                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Best stewardship of public funds rooted in consistency                                                                     
     and predictability                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:58:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  looked at slide  8, and wondered  whether the                                                                    
funding   was  authorized   or   the   amount  of   deferred                                                                    
maintenance  that remained  on the  list. Mr.  Bryan replied                                                                    
that it  was appropriations  provided by the  legislature to                                                                    
address deferred maintenance.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson surmised that it was authorized funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche looked  at  slide 16.  He  noted that  all                                                                    
industries  were in  a  computerized maintenance  management                                                                    
system  (MMS)  by  2005.  He   wondered  whether  the  state                                                                    
equipment fleet  was in  a computer  MMS. Mr.  Davis replied                                                                    
that there were  several computer MMSs in use  in the state.                                                                    
He stated that some were  new, some with contracts that were                                                                    
set   to  expire,   and  some   with   varying  range   user                                                                    
satisfaction. He remarked  that there was an  attempt to put                                                                    
all buildings into the same computerized MMS.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:00:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bryan highlighted slide 18, "Future Considerations":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The Governor's 10 Year Plan includes $70M-$90M                                                                             
     combined funding level for DM and School Maintenance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DM should be a primary component of a GO Bond package                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          DM funding has strong local and in-state economic                                                                     
          impact                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DM distribution considerations based on objective                                                                          
     rating system to address most critical projects                                                                            
     statewide                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Constant   attention    to   Preventative   Maintenance                                                                    
     required                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  looked at the second  bullet. She queried                                                                    
the current capacity, current bond  payoff schedule, and how                                                                    
a new  bond plan would  be integrated. She  wondered whether                                                                    
the governor's  plan was in  addition to the  federal match.                                                                    
Mr. Bryan agreed to provide information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  announced  that  the  state  bond  debt                                                                    
capacity  over  the following  five  to  ten years  was  $50                                                                    
million to  $100 million. She  stressed that the  payoff was                                                                    
high, and the current payments  were also high. She remarked                                                                    
that deferred maintenance typically  exceeded the life cycle                                                                    
of a bonding process. She  asserted that the governor's plan                                                                    
did not  meet the  per year  deferred maintenance  cost. Mr.                                                                    
Bryan  stated  that the  first  bullet  addressed an  annual                                                                    
level of funding in a ten year plan.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:05:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof stressed the challenge  of prioritization                                                                    
with limited UGF funds. Mr. Bryan agreed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  remarked that  there  was  an issue  of                                                                    
leveraging federal funds.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche understood  that there  was an  issue with                                                                    
remote facilities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop  requested  a  list  of  the  sold  state                                                                    
assets.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von   Imhof  stressed  that   there  should   be  a                                                                    
consideration of the cash flow  change by changing ownership                                                                    
of a building.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:10:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche stressed  that a  comprehensive evaluation                                                                    
would remove data.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hughes requested  on the  focus of  the $1  billion                                                                    
deferred maintenance backlog.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  discussed the committee  process related                                                                    
to deferred maintenance.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:16:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:16 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
041917 Deferred Maintenance Presentation for SFIN 4.19.17.pdf SFIN 4/19/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 23